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Title : Hacking your brain: Artificial Conciousness
Author : -c
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|=-------------=[         Artificial Consciousness        ]=-------------=|
|=-------------=[ A complete human behaviorism simulation ]=-------------=|
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|=--------------------------=[    by -C    ]=----------------------------=|
|=--------------------------=[  c@cdej.org ]=----------------------------=|
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In 1956 John McCarthy defined the term Artificial Intelligence as
"The science and engineering of making intelligent machines".
Obviously, while studying artificial thoughts processing, we eliminated 
the human factor of Neuro-linguistic filters that the brain applies on the 
meta receptors layer. A computer program simply will never tackle a thought
based on impulsive reactions. There is no human behaviorism in AI.
Instead, we substitute this mechanism with an algorithm of computational 
processing and information storage indexing. Here resides the very core of 
AI science. Many algorithms have been evolved and applied, overcoming
faulty thinking, infinite loops of exclusive-OR decision making, and
geographic/territorial mapping of robotics, and so forth.
Fifty two years later, we intend to rationalize a new approach to this 
field, trying to keep away from science fiction.

This paper is fairly introductory to both classic AI and our AI model,
and requires no prerequisite except a bit of curiosity for this field,
so enjoy reading.

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I. Introduction
   a) Abstract
   b) Central Processing Spirit

II. Character assignment design
a)	Psychological growth
b)	Neuro-performance
c)	Reception -> Reactions -> Style

III. Ontology / knowledge engineering
a)	Are we Heuristics?
c)	Sub-symbolic design
d)	Artificial Desire
e)	Reasoning

IV. Conclusion




I.	Introduction

a) As a primary reflection on Artificial Intelligence, one must find it 
vital to proceed according to a precise scientific approach for analysis
of thoughts. 
A thought is an idea. A piece of information that the mind recalls.
This (POI) is processed by the chemo-electronic factory of the brain, 
and gets tainted by the MIND. Neuro Linguistic Programming theories 
organized the brain functions and how it deals with information through 
various filters. We borrow a basic segment and build upon it a 
resemblance in machine land:

- Similar thoughts stored in memory (anchoring)
- Virtues and choices (decision making)
- Freedom to take risk endeavors. (problem solving)

b) To tackle this ordeal from ground zero would be an enormous load on one 
article or paper to handle. Therefore we assumed our study from a point 
where we have advanced in applying to our AI subject, using the
international common speech utility that is the English language, coupled
with a set of rules we engineer as an esthetical appeal for this entity.
These rules, as we will explain later on, do not follow the EXPERT SYSTEM
decision making logic, where as human knowledge changes, the entire module
will have to be rebuilt; instead our model will take its decisions based on
Index Priority, that varies automatically as the AI experiences new events.
In other words, we design our program a personality. This generic model is
based on dual channel thought processing, fed by a hierarchy of database
storage devices where each family of thoughts is preserved in its own
design. Some of these databases, or sets of thoughts, will have a read only
access permission, some will have read and write access permission, and
some will only have write permissions, to be used as a temporary allocated
space for acquired thoughts before sending the entire data structure to
Central Processing Spirit. As we amusingly named(CPS).

While the read only access structures will hold information that relate
only 
to the fundamentals of the entity's core design, and provide our first line
of defense once the automation process of Self Information Gathering (SIG) 
will be launched; From supplied text experts, web information, news, and
much more feeds;
the write only permission space will be as such for the sake of restricting
the AI entity from any premature usage of these new acquired thoughts
before 
being processed, organized and approved by the CPS (or the programmer). 

Thinking about this design will surely summon up issues of time
consumption. 
How long will this construction take?
A minimum of one human lifetime? But that is highly acceptable with the 
implementation of 2nd generation AI replication algorithms, which is a 
base model of AI hybrid reproduction, resulting in the jointure of 2 AI 
entities CPS and dBases.
This dual model inheritance is not designed to be similar to the human 
reproduction between one male and one female human beings, but it has 
to do with the design of dual channel thought processing as mentioned 
previously. We tend to believe that our model's reproduction, has to occur
between one couple. 
This is matter of MULTI AGENT PLANNING and community scheduling, 
and is beyond the scope of this paper.

II. Character assignment design

a)	Psychological growth.
"It's not how perfect you do something that's important, but how others 
perceive it."
A famous question is always there. Could a machine have life, or will it be
dry simulation. Basically, this should not matter at all!

Regardless of the process a human being achieves in developing a unique
character, and the tremendous complexity that subsists in his
neuropsychological growth, it almost only pertains to how others interpret 
his reactions and behavior. 
That in mind, we couldn't care less about how a machine obtaining a real
genuine thought, or a lifelike style of its own. We will design an
algorithm of learning that will eventually attribute a character to the
machine, depending on how much and how fast it could process the SELECTED
REACTIONS.

In other terms, given one action that is having ten children listen to an
adult instruction such as "Finish your homework, then watch TV" we could
observe ten different reactions ranging from obedience, to defiance. And
that relates to:
-	How bad the child wants to watch TV
-	How important are his homework
-	What is shown on TV
-	Is it a circumstance free situation or has it to do with another 
      (might say no in revenge for not having ice cream an hour ago)
-	and much more situational parameters.


In machine land, our CPS would have built a certain database of events in 
correlation with the outcome that happened, indexed them according to a 
judgmental scale, and throughout its uptime, it will select how to react 
upon life events according to what it has been fed as an Index Key
Priority.

Technically speaking, this is very easily programmable with recent database
technologies and language. The more parenting and training our CPS takes,
and efficiency in our database selection design, the more chances are to
obtain a unique character and attitude.

b) The two paradigms of learning that concern us are:
SUPERVISED and UNSUPERVISED. 

First, let us talk about the basics of machine learning. 
Classic AI always outlined machine learning from reaching a state of
consciousness, as it is believed that computer learning is only about
designing algorithms to find statistical regularities or various data
patterns. And then tried to resolve problems such as Classifications,
exclusive-OR decisions, and so forth, with Decision Trees.
Decision Trees are a simple but effective logic design, where a chain of
boolean questions might take you down the leafs as you pick up your choices
Yes,No,No,Yes.
In our opinion, and as Neural Networks progress only showed, this design
could attain at its best a good speech recognition utility or a medical
assistance program that would diagnose and evaluate cancer subjects.

In this approach, Supervised Learning is the logic of feeding the AI with
rules of a world (classification system) we already created, and relying
heavily on the training our machine gets in order to minimize the error
margin (Markov theorem, Bayesian Networks.)

On the other hand, Unsupervised Learning shifts interest more toward
decision making than it is to classification. It is simply a way to find a
framework suitable for decision oriented reasoning, based on a
punish/reward outcome.
This model builds up a history of results, upon which it bases a
statistical decision making techniques for the future questions at hand.
Clustering is the second Unsupervised Learning type, and is achieved by
finding similarities in the training data, not trying to boost a utility
function.

Now that this was said, let us think about the limitations.

Whether we preprogrammed the AI to reach a certain purpose, or by itself 
as a systematic self-learning module, the LEARNING mechanism should always 
follow one standard set of stimuli. 


Let's outline this from the point of view of cognitive psychology:
-	Memory and recognition. It is a fairly straightforward job for a 
        programmer to design a system with pattern matching, measuring of 
        distances, and sequential treatment of information.

-	Verbal and linguistic evaluation. The AI should have a method to 
   	distinguish and assess similar information indices. Just like a 
   	human deja vu, it MUST relate the event to different occurrences 
   	stored in the memory, and decides its reaction based on how
        significant the other instances were at the time. This will
        eventually allow us to hope that this design would one day generate
       (i.e)new sentences of its own. 

Interesting! Imagine the AI analyzing large amounts of data, images, 
sounds... on a regular basis while indexing the databases according to 
what possible emotions they would generate, and have it finally trained 
for this evaluation. It should come as no surprise if we had a design 
that could write poetry!

- Comprehension. As absurd as this might sound, AI has better assimilating
facilities than humans. The process of comprehension is the most
complicated phenomenon observed in Neuroscience, but from the very simple
facts we concluded, machinery has the upper hand due to greater speed of
processing than and better memory storage than ours. Now this is not a
comparison between Men and Machine. We simply mention this as a fact that
AI surpasses the human limitations of comprehension and it is only
intuitive that such a design is possible. 

- Neuro linguistic science has shown that humans have more
difficulties understanding negation sentences than simple affirmative ones.
Unlike humans, computer science treats booleans with the same speed and
effort. 
Many more disadvantages of comprehension process simply do not exist in AI.
   
That also means a great supply of information will be needed.Be it
negations, complexity or ambiguity of sentences, this AI model is able 
to treat them with promising speeds to reach a self learning stage. 
Associating actions to the reactions analysis.


c) Perceiving the Universe is a mapping mechanism of Time and Space that 
we encounter through our biological senses. This we shall call the 
FLUXION SENSITIVITY. 
Most importantly is to apply a successful text mining / pattern matching
module to our AI, which will analyze text as its only sense of the
Universe. 
Fifty years of progress in this field allowed many researchers to reach 
a respectable level to the extent of using some customized AI programs in 
forensic psychology and criminology investigation. 
The only new idea our model has to bring to the world of AI is an 
EMOTIONAL SIMULATION module.

Emotional simulation is a two-way library of reactions prediction.
Let us go into that.
For each event, a human being would display a certain emotion. 
This is vastly exposed in body language, tonality, timeline of the speech, 
and verbal choices.
We will only be concerned in expression analysis and timeline display.

Our model was based on a typology study done at the University of Kent, 
for a police interview tactics handbook. We used the same algorithm to 
detect emotions and display them in return.
(Think of it more as detecting the logic behind emotions.)

The Kent model is a big failure and nonsense, but nevertheless the three 
steps of the design set the stage for our Emotional Simulation (but in
reverse):

-	delivery
-	maximization
-	manipulation

[Note: some readings about Kent's model could be in hand at this time]

In short, delivery has about 12 variables of expressions, open, close,
leading. Maximization occurs when police agents try to intimidate the
subject and push him to give out more clues. Our maximization is fishing
for clues technique, used by asking more key questions.
There is not much to explain about manipulation. In our study, it could
easily be merged with the maximization step.

Hopefully, in a few months (by mid 2008), we could put a complete program 
to test, that will not only detect the meanings of expressions, but will
also "assume" the emotions behind them, and switch its mode to the
appropriate behavior. 

This AI will be the first model that could literally switch moods.

=========================================================================

III. Ontology
a) Are we heuristics?

For the second part of this paper, we will be discussing the core formation
for this AI model. Its existence and what constitutes its regulations.
A common pitfall most AI scientists encounter is, to have a design based on
precise mathematical reactions and decisions. Now let's go over this method
first.

The evolution of AI happens to go from mimicking human responses, to
impressive behavior simulation. The designer usually tries to produce a
perfect replica of the human performance. 

Now what will happen if even the most advanced researches in neuroscience
haven't even scratched the shell of human neuropsychology? most importantly
DECISION MAKING. How would we replicate a phenomenon if we haven't fully
understood what drives it and how it reaches its steps?
This is why computer science employs a preprogrammed set of responses,
based on what the designer believes is appropriate for humans, implementing
a classic database structure that can only lead him to a one-way exclusive
question-answer AI.
This classic method is flawed. Period.

One better approach to this is to avoid concepts of imitation and jump
right through to what is called a Rule Of Thumb mode, which allows a
certain vague margin for correct answers.
Using a heuristic method to resolve the problem of decision making, not
only set stage for a more fluid AI, but also showed us practicality and
broader playground for the programmer.
In terms of allowing many indexing modules to play the role of priority
selector for each decision that is to be made.

For example, if you have to decide what pizza to order. Your mind filters
would process and infinite numbers of POI before putting the decision in
perspective, and most of the times, you normally "feel" it was a random
choice and you could have survived with others. 
But what if you try one kind, and found it was so delicious that you wanted
to order it again next time? This is where the priority indexes come in
handy.
The CPS has the freedom to add, remove, promote or demote indexes for each
POI or family of POI, based only on what it "assumes" to be an acceptable
circumstance.

This is a tricky turnaround in theory, but for the programmer, it is still
the same straightforward job, and could be the first gap filler between
boring Q/A programs and Hollywood Incredible Sci-Fi.




c)	Sub-symbolic design

In order to architect a sophisticated knowledge design, Newel and Simon
invented the theory of symbolic design, where a set of semantic rules might
be applied to construct a further more complex structure.
I won.t say we are restricted to the subsymbolic design, but in fact, this
theory fits perfectly.
So both sides of sub-symbolic design are used to our advantage and not
changed in theory:
-	Alternative development
-	Hybridism of subsymbolic and classic symbolic NLP (Natural Language
Processing). Once the learning module is concluded, SS design will set the
stage for the real MULTI-AGENT interference.

The geometrically increasing computing power promotes five factors tending
to reduce radically the role of any species of logic in IT :

1. Since deterministic applications are vanishing, the conventional
   algorithm (pattern marching) is not anymore program backbone.

2. Even when still useful, the conventional algorithm is not anymore the
   main programming instrument.
3. In AI the symbolic paradigm is steadily replaced by several sub-symbolic
   ones, based on fine-grain parallelism.
4. Even when symbols are used, they are stored in and retrieved from huge
   and cheap memory, rather than processed through sophisticated reasoning
   schemes (case-based reasoning is just a blatant example).
5. Cognitive complexity of new, sophisticated logics is too high for a 
   designer, when cut and try, is affordable.


This might sound a big deal of mambo jumbo at this point, considering the
introductory nature of this paper, but more in depth details about this
once the publication of this project will be official. 

d)	Artificial Desire

Very little have we to say about Artificial Desire. As we saw in the index
priority and POI set of rules, we might easily trigger a vice-random
decision when it comes to natural desire for things, but at this point, we
haven.t even perfected any way to make the AI really desire something. More
like have it chose from a similar range of choices based on time
variations, frequency of this choice, or event yet, have it try something
for a first time. Neither us, or anyone who previously indulged in AI
science dares to claim giving a machine this attribute.
Nevertheless, having a decent normal vice-random desire choice maker
module, will simulate human behaviorism to a great extent, and fakes it.
"We could have different choices with each one a probability of success
based upon the past:

- 90%
- 88%
- 85% " as explained earlier.

So generally AI choses the first choice but for one time AI wil go for the
second and see what happen. That could be considered as a "desire".

This fake simulation might also apply to the reasoning construct.
Even if applied conforming to Kant.s practical reasoning, we still have to
forge a "moral decision" based on what our CPS has a-priori set of rules,
and have the programmer stand in charge of supplying 
the AI with this route.


IV. Conclusion

In a few words, I would like to apologize for the dry style of this paper,
it started as a dissertation thesis and ended up as my future hobby side
project. We might never even come close to a full artificial conscious
design, but this model introduction surely drew a few interesting
turnarounds that might facilitate future innovations.
I hope reading it was exciting enough for as many of you to be interested
in further studies about this wonderful field.

	
	-C
	c@cdej.org

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Drunk Russian, on November 5th 2008 at 10:47 am :
Google blocked access to its cache from my IP since 0400 this night, i.e. Dec 06 2008.
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Unprecedented event. They say "Sorry, you perform automated queries <wide g> , maybe, later"...
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Dear Sergei, privet. Sending you a message via Phrack. You are the only Russian I know in Google, Inc. Kak tak? I do queries manually, must I send a video lesson to your admin? Of course I engage a program to look after IPs, but every time I need a briefing I press the button to know who's in. Ya nikomu nichego plohogo ne delayu, i pust' dazhe ne nadeyuzza. Ili poprosil kto? Ty skazhi, ya vse ponimayu. Pishi, esli chto, adres gde-to zdyes' v kommentah. Tvoi tezka from Siberia :-)
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Drunk Russian, on November 5th 2008 at 9:56 am :
OpenAir to Scottsdale, AZ [you read this]:
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> I (in 3).
With new president coming on duty, you may possibly freely:
i) pay more attention to your language as you are living amongst its keepers;
ii) stop using infected WordPress [you din't know this?] when building semi-blank pages carrying visually just one link :-)
iii) freely put correct Russian patronimics, e.g. "Pet'rovich" instead of "Petrov", wherever you are engineering a new person. I hope that people will find this way of representing yourself correct.
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> II (in 1).
i) What? No Russians wanna get enrolled who can just briefly sketch up any untrusted thing in cyrillic? I don't believe it. You may hire some of these idunnowhatchamaycallems openly.
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And there are STRANGEST BUT PREDICTABLE things going on around. A knowing wink. Hello, the Pink 0ne. Was Nice to Hear from You :-)
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Should I look for help at AB Scotts? But this will be the end of Solomon Grundy, you know, man. You say you are patriotic? Hmmm... lemme smile. Please keep yourself clean. IT hurts to cause pain to intellectual creatures.
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Kiss Kate for me.
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Sober Russian, on November 5th 2008 at 3:48 am :
Hi,
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Thought I said goodbye to Phrack...
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Fuion, isn't it Sheriff Time Zone which amanfromMars points on :-) Should review other topics on Phrack. And, the more, the # of the ID of this topic was 13 <g>. Since we have Sincere Thanks from Mr. C, it has changed to #14. So, I find TimeWarp not too much going out of the New Phrack Order.
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Elections: I took on Mr. Obama. You?
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There are things that should be repaired in foreign policies, and there must be an efficient people's diplomacy between our countries. But now, seems 2 me, a huge lot of posters and hackers hired worldwide by governments are expecting for a kick to start infowar. Whatever happens next, it was the initiative of the United States.
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Hope that American citizen will not have to name any airport in his name next years. I mean Angels of Hell of Free America, who look just pissed off with the ongoing elections.
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And I don't know what time zone is used for Phrack but GMT 0643 5th November was the post date from this end of the message.....which is Phrackdated "amanfromMars, on November 4th 2008 at 6:49 am" which puts us 24 hours out of synch, which raises even more questions.

And just whenever so much good information and edutainment was being so selflessly shared with readers/AIgents
amanfromMars, on November 4th 2008 at 9:49 pm :
Hey, Phrack, what's up with all the Shenanigans/Missing posts on this thread? Is your Server under Remote Third Party Bullying Control? ..... by Executive Order of some Tin Pot Dictatorship. The alternative would be a crying shame if the crack code community were to think/discover that the apple of their eye was just a stoogie plant all along stealing their honey and pre-empting their dreams.

Can you explain what is happening and/or give a good reason why you will not? Although National Security won't cut the mustard whenever it is all about the money.

Thanks.
It is election day today: Hope no one is committing voter fraud :X

Especially in Arizona: Like the Sheriff :X
Thank you for the continuous support everyone.
amanfromMars, on October 24th 2008 at 5:08 pm :
SomeOne/Phrack,

It has certainly been Most Successful in Opening up the Consciousness in the other half of the article's title.

I would consider that an Achievement to be Lauded on these Humble Pages. Would Phrack like to ReConsider their Leading Role and Host AIR&dD Coversations further.

Any Directions taken in NowFlow are Easily Steered with XXXXCellent Input/Beta IntelAIgents and All Interested Parties Perusing theses Pages are Cordially Invited to Play .... the Greatest of Great Games for the Sheer Love of IT. IT in Love.

Hello World. Welcome to the Realm of Quantum Virtual Machinery and Global Operating Devices @ Work, Rest and Play. Believe and IT is True, I Imagine.

Hello, amfM,

We have Phrack staff's brain hacked on page #6. Hacking the given brain was, generally, half of the title of the article. They just stuck on AI :-) So I'm a hacker toooo!!!

@Phrack... .::don't block IP::.
@ The Consultants of Phrack Magazine.

Gentlemen,

The paper history of http://www.phrack.com/issues.html?issue=65&id=14&page=1#comments will, possibly, be a subject of studies at Faculty of Foreign Languages & Psychology of our University for non-profit educational purposes. IMO, very specific issues of intellect are raised, and, the more, some ways of solving neural conflicts and crossing borders are viewed with clearance.

THX for hosting, Phrack. Of course, it's a byte more difficult for a Russian to say "Sieg Heil"...

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amanfromMars, on October 24th 2008 at 8:05 am :
Sieg Heil, Phrack.
The phrack staff has decided to block comments on this article. While its not yet automated, we will remove any further posts. If you want to continue the discussion, do it in private. This is not censorship, this is about keeping the forum a sane environment.

This decision is motivated by the following:

- Non-bot-assisted posters have more and more difficulties to understand this thread.

- More and more real names are appearing

- More and more external untrusted links are appearing

- Some people started to complain

- More and more people start to complain

- We have other things to do than reading all your posts full of non-sense for the common of mortals (us and others).

The decision is taken and irrevocable.

The phrack staff.
"The staff would like to thank all the governmental and military agencies who consult Phrack regularly. Thanks a lot for your support. If you need help to secure any of your system we would be pleased to assist you" - http://www.phrack.com/stats.html
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Phrack let me read your post [long time no see, sorry]and removed it. I admire and appreciate their diplomacy. The removal has coincided with my latest private msg to port 254 :-)Might have been peer review is done already.
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And editorial policy, I suppose, is same easily undestood. With such list of consultants they have to be brave to publish some data in articles, let alone comments. Also, a science format of a non-frequent magazine keeps away the problem with possible lack of urgent newsgroups. There has to be the broadest NowFlow... but there's no direct link to IT in IT, maybe, in articles...
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amanfromMars, on October 23th 2008 at 8:02 am :
Dear Phrack,

Is there a problem with hosting the reply to SomeOne ....amanfromMars, on October 21th 2008 at 8:28 am .... on this thread and the reply to Max .... amanfromMars, on October 21th 2008 at 9:10 am on the The Underground Myth thread http://www.phrack.com/issues.html?issue=65&id=13#comments.

The Intellectual Property shared is wholly Mine to Share CopyLeft. Are there Green Eyed Gremlins in the System?


PLUS BELOW:
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Ooough, donnerwetter! Vitaly Churkin is no longer a Head of the russian Electorials, he's at Permanent Mission... oops... of course I should pay more attention to what is at the upperside of the carpet.
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amfM, may you plz check incoming from my IP 4 the hidden embedded links? I see smth strange (with .ru in the string)in a backtrack original. Why do they do this for? When I extracted a link by searching a source code of the page, it led me to some site-building agency in Urals.
@ amanfromMars:
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"Who is popularly recognised as being the head of things in Siberia?"
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It's coming of Winter, as sudden as it always is. But I've sent a message to your 254, with just one of the links to Russian world of IT in IT. Please broaden your request if U look for a specific reference.
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amfM, before unleashing war there, please make sure I'm not the only Russian who thinks he understands your very special language :-)
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Sincerely yours - SomeOnE
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@amanfromMars re> ltst msg 2 Fuion:
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"IT is not Real without your Input?" -
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Definitely near Buddhism.
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@amanfromMars re prec:
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Shana?
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Seems we should know each other closer to some extent. The more we are already so close here in Arizona, as appeared :-)
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@Fuion on October 16th 2008 at 5:53 pm:
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"Disregard these people saying they are Russian.
They are in Arizona" :(
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I'm Russian, Fuion. 2B geographically exact, I'm a Siberian. BTW, nicely advertising that (TM), I mean Thompson...
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Seems like your sniffer is so strangely tuned. Probably by your enemies... With worm like that in head, one could make a great judge or an investigator when 1984 comes in US, if you speak for serious about items and FEARS you mean.
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Man, IT's enough to make you scare twice more even if I type "fears" in capitals. 'Cos you want it. Much of your IP Route is coming through the lands of No Good. Why did you need to come through them if U don't Investigate the Treasons, Pleasures and Honeytraps? Defacing yourself before the face of the THREAT? Well, threat is also defaced, I suppose. Man, give girl a break and try sleeping with a teddybear for a week, a good therapy, too...
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Wow, those were two quite manic posts, Fuion. Is it a new therapy methodology .... A rant a day keeps the spooks away?

You do lead and suffer a strange world. Have you considered that IT is not Real without your Input?

It sure seems like this board has turned into a police sting for morons.

Disregard these people saying they are Russian.
They are in Arizona :)

Also search for cached copies of protosec.com and see how to decode the news network these posers use to entrap hackers, set them up, and even kill them.

No kidding.

I wonder who they work for ?

I will be happy to give out a list of real names of all these people for anyone who asks.
:)

Remember kids - Coersion and Entrapment is for loosers.

They also like to hang out on:
Theregister.co.uk (coded news and comments)
Theinquirer.net (coded news and comments)
b3ta.com/board (coded posts and pictures)
amanfrommars.baywords.com ( all code )
tracksuit.baywords.com (all code )
4chan (wonder why the kid who hacked palin's email was caught - he announced it on 4chan)

They all use proxy clients to connect to the websites mostly hosted in TEXAS (they are not in the UK ;)

They use code talk on the websites to talk to each other, and intimidate hackers they are stalking. They even brag about murdering them.

They actually STEAL your exploits then set you up - and if that doesnt work they kill you.

Talk about corruption.

amanfrommars is Shana Thompson.
"Business Opportunities/Market Possibilities with a View to ensuring their Future Certainty" -
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Suddenly imagined a coder, preparing 4 the Honeymoon, feeding a bot to maintain a multi-dialogue, hope good sportsman will change good coder 4 a time. I think people should be MANU sometimes. Mainly, when posting :-)
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One of the possibly rare excuses for sharing through auto. So, the more, THX4MANU.
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And, of course, default important coded data can be easily sent in auto :-) BTW, an Early Bird have plopped a couple of search keywords into my mailbox. So was found a Google cache of http://protosec.com , be Tender and Patient with some links.
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Do you remember, amanfromMars, must have had been (who the coder invented English?) like taken from a song:
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"Hacking is one thing.
Treason is another.
I am right out in the open.
I have no need to hide"
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A parallel with the style of the author of mentioned paper is also shown quite clear even 2 be reproduced before, I suppose. Though, looks like author puts himself in a list of nasty acting persons. fuion should know your hot wet GeoID, perhaps... [Rockets, "Some Other Place"]
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And, methinks, NeuReal ProgramMing (of a Chinese dynasty or what, amfM?) can not push off neither Black, nor White. Also for a Quantum must Shine in Darkness of a Human Consciousness, 'cos me thinks that Quantum Knows no Colour at all, but has to declare its Independence/push a Certificate of its Existance ahead of its Trip, or it won't be Noticed in so Important Flow of Unimportant Things Going, and won't do what Dad'n'Mom said.
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And, for real, there is Void in Fibers, only Plastic. Nodes enjoy Void only when they're in Sleep Mode...
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"always So Much Beta Placed to Assist when Reward is Guaranteed... would be Foolish not to Proceed" -
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IT surely would, amfM. And the Real Advantages of IT yet are: I practice my English, You feed the program. I should say my sincere thanks to you and trackSuit for being good assistants in Mutual Understanding.
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"...can we fully expect to see Catastrophic Markets Meltdown continuing unabated" -
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Don't you worry, amfM. It will take only a year 4 carts 2 get an eq of a zoomed stuff back to ports, perhaps. "Tom, on 12th of September I told ya get glitters out from under the white cross" [re> "talk about LHC and stuff like that - will any hole there appear just enough big to verschlingen some swiss international gold depots?"]
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Better, amfm, you should invest in scientific researches and students in Novosibirsk and Tomsk, if you mean IT. Pure Gold, and no Skulls'n'Bones & Paris Hilton with their Clawy Paws to Young Souls.
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"However one Imagines that the likes of a Russia or a China or a Japan [Eastern Beauties]are Perfectly Placed to Engineer an Altogether Beta System of Social Operation with Special Operating Executives..." -
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Dammit, I don't even want to re-type the as-below. No comments, amanfromMars. Except one that if one day one could decide to poison cockroaches in the rooms of Department of Eurasia of the CIA, people here would read a Beta Domestic News next day in papers. And, probably, vice versa :-) But, if I heard it out correct, community has such mess under carpet since GOD broke [apart] a DNA code - they didn't even manage 2 mount a telescope on top of Babylon Tower together. Since then, people look thirsty for understanding each other and making world a better place. Thinking otherways, I'm sure, must be an egoistical atavism, empowered with strong intent to protect deeply personal values. C'mon, IT's alright, the tail falls off during 2nd millenium... [Must not be taken as an offending]
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BTW, amfM, pravda.ru is not the official Soviet newspaper to be a valuable source. Please feel free to question my opinion considering news in Russia. For beginning, there's an interesting concept briefly developed at http://rustimes.com/russian-civilization.htm , pity that so shotly is said about works of Vladimir Shmakov, English translations of which are available, maybe, only somewhere in Library of Congress.
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And, for GOD' sake, please: "I'm always ready, willing and able to share those careful steps, 404 Found, with whomever we would find making them" - amanfromMars, on August 13th 2008 at 10:47 am.
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We. I distinctly heard you say "we".
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A busty milkwoman came and UR feeling beesy for a week or two? Or just an order to shutdown TBMCS? :-)
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Peace, Brothers.
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Well, the latest Top Secret News news are available at free premium source, only in graphic txt at http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/historical_archives_secret?utm_source=onion_rss_daily , Old Scotch & Habana come along, just like I had yesterday :-)
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Recognized the style of a paper, amanfromMars?
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Thanks for the latest link, I appreciate good thoughts. But in perspective, I'd recommend you 2 keep your OpenID card or E-pass in a metal case from the Cafe Cremes.
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Hi that's me confirmeth that my name hath really changed from 404 Found to SomeOnE. Thou shalth not die, I say... maybe me neither... reply if you folks are still alive! Living outta phrack period com becomes boring... Sorry 4 the probably unconvinient messages U could ever read from my part. And, Id like to notice that any [forking][fork] who will ever say that speaking to a Russian is a kind of a treason - PLAGUE ON HIS HOUSE excpt chldrn!
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Luv U - Serge
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An interesting search link dropped:
headline.request>"Additional nickname of 404 Found, please register as in string below: SomeOnE".
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A past-relative lexic appeared on top of a Google search page at http://www.google.ru/search?complete=1&hl=ru&newwindow=1&client=firefox&rls=ru.yandex%3Aru%3Aofficial&q=Additional+nickname+of+404+Found%2C+please+register+as+in+string+below%3A+SomeOnE&btnG=%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA&lr=lang_ru&aq=f&oq= :
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[commit-gajim] r10406 - in trunk: data/glade po 10 sep 2008... 176" (please) in Russian technical texts. - change voice/aspect of some verbs - Fix a space before bang in a string. ...
https://www.lagaule.org/pipermail/commits/2008-September/004119.html - 67k - ![SITE RETURNS INCORRECT DATA, 2 SERVERS CHAINED, PROBABLY A LISTENER]
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A very funny coincidence... esp. if one rememebers words "AI at Its Work"... using PuntoSwitcher, amanfromMars?
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No other RUgoogle results were not found during 2 hrs. Seemingly, KGB don't care... I'll try searching google.com.grin.
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Oops. Missed half of the string,
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Should read "...Founding Discussions/Intellectual Property Exchanges are unknown/reserved/privileged knowledge, for the very probable bad reason that...", pardon me.
amanfromMars, on October 5th 2008 at 8:59 pm :
Another Interesting and Tempting Post, 404 Found ..[on October 4th 2008 at 5:23 pm ]

I can certainly understand and would therefore also expect that the likes of a Russian MD Scientific Research Institute # 13 would be listening/reading what is being so Transparently Shared, for ITs Non-Ionising Radiation is a Powerful Unbreakable Tool in Capable Hands/Administrations. And with such Thoughts of a Powerful Unbreakable Tool also comes the Klimovian Degenerate Thinking of ITs Use for Exclusive Channels of and in Greater Control ..... which can, of course, be easily Accomodated, which would be QuITe A.N.Other Sensitive Matter which would be of Interest to the likes of a Russian MD Scientific Research Institute # 13..... or any foreign clone of its Researching Institutional Model/Methodology. However, there are Others also being Tempted to Lead with ITs Powerful Controls and First Come with Requisite Commitment, First Servered with Ultimate Responsibility and Initiating Leads is that which Drivers the Field. And that makes IT an Intelligence Game for the Enlightened rather than just a Business Control of Money for Currency Flow and Power Generation ...... which would be something right up Comrade Putin's street and XXXXStreamly Valuable to the Presidential Executive Office, Moscow, Staraya Square, 4, meThinks...... for this is what IT can do ..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/openid_foundation_meeting_what.html#comment3

@trackSuit
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As we remember, title of the article above was "Hacking your brain: Artificial Consciousness". Well, we manage to, with more equivalent percentage of a machine LexDump. Suddenly noticed that the word "brain" is given in small letters.grin.
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I think, there are reasons to stop saying "I think" if one is surfing 4 an opinion of field spec in 1st part of the title. Sorry if I ommit this requirement below sometimes.
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"Does the type of Governance depend on the size of the Population IT is to Server?" -
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No. The type of Thinking-It's-the-Governance is influented by someone serving to a power and everybody one can speak with, be a population big or small. And, of course, there is power in the whole as a "magic" (shortly, in purely scientifical understanding) that takes much from the pretender. In the age of information and deep scientifical worldwide researches, the pretender has 2B physically and mentally well 4 not 2 go nuts after the switch is on. dDeveloping/Reverse-Engineering/Destroy of Policies is secondary. A team supposed 2B dream takes responsibility 4 the affairs during the period of shock, and pity it's almost an impossible task to impress anyone with anything there.wide grin. Same thing everywhere, whether a clan or Political Bureau rule.
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"Would a certain level of Female or Male Homosexuality add benefits to a society, by limiting procreation, yet passing on benefits of Financial Stability and Memetic Inheritance, providing it does not degenerate into sexual predation?" -
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Generally, people now are fed with much more than ever information with words "homosexualism", "lesbian", TV-shows with different stars and anyone's attend to it. Number grows, sure. Of course you know that the more often the advertising breaks through ears, the more one can begin to think about advertised item*. On top of exploit there's a serious and pretentious sect, corrupted and well-managed. Some close high-level intergroup relations with militarized well-equipped "sado task force", aka visitors of Black Mon[?]ey Tours in militarized areas of Africa.
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Can't say why but they seem 2B much more able to sneak through the Doors than most of heterosexuals. Of course no basis to prove that revolutions are doing by perverted people, but with the ways of these groups [like Klimov pictures], and their being involved into a process [with an XXXSSperiently programmable route and TTL], there'a recognisable threat to be cheated by them during the period of setting things down after the revolution's done with its primary work.
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"Would the Nature of Governance be important if it is free of corruption?" -
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Thank you for the question, trackSuit. It really wouldn't. Still Natalya Pavlova (a bright Soviet scientist Pavlov's daughter), a high-class specialist in bBrains, once said that no crime in society means perinatal lobotomy for everyone. [Some men at Eastern highland practices become so really good in "quantum communications" that a clause for the level-extended newcomers exist to make a lobotomy, otherwise like many things seeming natural before will be percepted and represented in a specifical way, or false close threats might be recognized and an unconscious or instinctive harm may be done].
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"And if ten people go into a department and borrow cables, and only some bring them back again, is that corrupt, or merely a badly organised system?" -
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Badly organising, I think. In Russia :-) we take any ass out from nowhere and build a department of Cables in which you feel free to borrow any cable with the deduction from salary for not returning it. New jobs, you know, and order, besides... talk about corruption...
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"In nature, do things in a most general way seem to 'clump' together, be they Stars, Clouds, Ants, clods of earth, particles inside an atom... The thing is that when groups of things form, they do so because they gain an advantage which they do not get by being alone. With this advantage comes the responsibility, of adhering to the rule or rules of the group. While a certain level of rule-breaking (a type of corruption... -(or just bad organisation?) ...may be of little consequence to the group's cohesion, clearly, wholesale disregard for the rules will simply lead to the break-up of the group." -
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As just a threat is recognized by a wary eye, there's a warning message coming out. When recognizing food, another message follows. To whom? To the one standing back-to-back with you, observing situation behind. As I remember, this is the way of doing things. Information society is now full of false threats and promises. How should people define the real ones? Corruption appears far not the key problem, first of all, it's poverty, an evident crush of pretenders' attempts to be Mighty governers, anywhere they base at present time.
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*Prob. the reason why Klimov looks having no sleep because of psychos, and wishing to warn everyone about the threat (but the Russian MD Scientific Research Institute # 13, pictured by Klimov with a good sense of humor, is real - a top-secret organization, for the public who knows, them kinda developing ammos, and I'm not breakin' my national laws saying this). Though, someone is hanging at my IP since morning, as I see... can't suppress a smile, 4 what hell...
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Oops, sorry 4 being so short today. I know I should post it tonight. Next issue of 404 News comes soon.
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amanfromMars, on October 2th 2008 at 7:53 pm :
"Plz say if there was anything offensive."

A Facility and a Courtesy available for Exercise to All and Mentor. And a Pleasure to Oblige in Deed, indeed. Thanks.:-)

Oft is Offence Taken whenever None is Given, which is just a Breakdown in Mutual Understanding of Shared Words/Conscious Visible [Future Indicative]Thoughts?
amanfromMars,
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No, I'm on my remote desktop through my home provider. Just wonder how widely is IP beginning on 10 spread. There is another net wired. Plz say if there was anything offensive. My incoming packets are like sent by an angel.
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Have 2 be offline from you fellas till next night :-(
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